tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036855448795934379.post2886577234120727311..comments2019-06-02T22:05:53.027+01:00Comments on GRAVISSIMUM EDUCATIONIS: Excuse me, that's our schoolUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036855448795934379.post-37186716284529993572007-11-11T21:30:00.000+00:002007-11-11T21:30:00.000+00:00A belated thanks for these responses. I've put my ...A belated thanks for these responses. I've put my name down on the petition, and encourage others to. Thank you, snhs!The Holy Officehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05780034421875468593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036855448795934379.post-5350363492359107572007-11-09T17:21:00.000+00:002007-11-09T17:21:00.000+00:00guess which type of school most if not all of the ...guess which type of school most if not all of the bishops went to ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036855448795934379.post-52065405268076766012007-11-09T17:13:00.000+00:002007-11-09T17:13:00.000+00:00the independent catholic schools tend to be least ...the independent catholic schools tend to be least catholic because they need fee payers so the catholic identity is usually a fragrent reminder from a former era rather than strong religious teaching the state catholic schools have mainly re teachers not with a strong liberal agenda but themselves are a product of the weak catechisis of the last 30 years the best thing that could happen would be for a totally seperation so all catholic schools are independent then the catholic identity could be restablishedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036855448795934379.post-90168143027419681212007-11-08T20:52:00.000+00:002007-11-08T20:52:00.000+00:00Just wanted to inform you of the petition to keep ...Just wanted to inform you of the petition to keep the school opened at<BR/> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/St-Joes-college/<BR/><BR/>If any U.K. based supporters could sign up for it. The petition states:<BR/><BR/>"A top-performing school has been told it could be shut down and replaced with a new school.<BR/><BR/>If the closure goes ahead, St Joseph's College, in Trent Vale, could be forced to ditch its grammar school status and become a Catholic comprehensive instead.<BR/><BR/>This will result in families from Newcastle, the Moorlands, Stafford, Stone and south Cheshire being denied places there in future. At the moment, around 60 per cent of 11 to 16-year-olds at the school live outside the city boundaries.<BR/><BR/>The future of St Joseph's is tied up in a £200 million scheme to transform secondary education. Heads were today being called to a meeting with Stoke-on-Trent City Council and private firm Serco to be briefed on the latest plans.<BR/><BR/>But Ms Maguire,the head teacher, found out by chance last week that her own school, which has 950 pupils, is in the frame for possible closure.<BR/><BR/>With its amazing examination results at GCSE and A level the closure will be a disaster to its community and must be kept open at all costs, so please help."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036855448795934379.post-2030085379142480732007-11-08T15:48:00.000+00:002007-11-08T15:48:00.000+00:00Schools are a quick way for dioceses to gain a fas...Schools are a quick way for dioceses to gain a fast buck.<BR/>Easiest way to get access to the cash?<BR/>get the school on special measures .<BR/>How ? Employ only the cheapest of newly trained/trainee teachers - rid oneself of the more expensive 'senior teachers' by suggesting early retirement.<BR/>Change the structure of the Board of governors and give them sdministrative powers to employ - i.e. remove the teachers/headteachers adjudication of an interviewee's pedagogic capabilities and instead allow ill-informed governors to make those decisions grounded upon ideological educationalist/sociological sentimentss.<BR/>Couple of years down the line and the school will be in such a state of disarray it will be easy pickings to sell off.<BR/>They did it twice in my town and are in the process of doing it to two other schools - I cannot go into the details but these are deliberately willed machinations of certain individuals to ensure that they have enough readily available resources for their other enterprises which have enormous expense accounts....<BR/><BR/>It's the money ! <BR/>check to see if there's a new diocesan pastoral initiative or lay conference or diocesan 'council of the faithful' including a year long initiative [which will cost millions, leave our pews empty and disenfranchise our children] for pastoral renewal - and I guarantee they'll pay for it by selling off churches and catholic schools !On the side of the angelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05558623489507006790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036855448795934379.post-25565599358632627962007-11-07T21:13:00.001+00:002007-11-07T21:13:00.001+00:00I couldn't agree more with both Matthew Gerard and...I couldn't agree more with both Matthew Gerard and Rita in their dissatisfaction. <BR/><BR/>Rita: this school may or may not be a good 'Catholic' school. Whether or not it is, it belongs to the Church, not to the state. <BR/><BR/>It maybe the Church needs to wake up to two things: first, the state wants to confiscate its schools; and secondly, our schools need to return to their roots: Catholic schools means having practicing and orthodox Catholic teachers teaching Catholic pupils. <BR/><BR/>What about a gradual and partial privatization of our schools? Selling some off in order to raise enough funds to support poor pupils. <BR/><BR/>If the product was good, committed Catholic parents would make sacrifices to pay what fees they could afford.The Holy Officehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05780034421875468593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036855448795934379.post-78643285022700930332007-11-07T21:13:00.000+00:002007-11-07T21:13:00.000+00:00You pose two different questions: should a Catholi...You pose two different questions: should a Catholic school have its selection-by-religion policy changed by non-Catholics? Absolutely not!<BR/><BR/>Should Catholic Bishops support education based on academic selection? Well, there are two views, both entirely consistent with a Catholic point of view. "Give the best to our children" might mean an intensive academic formation for those whom it best suits, as long as it doesn't lead to catholic educational apartheid for those who don't pass the 11 Plus and are left languishing at poor Catholic Secondary Modern(-equivalent) schools; or it might mean world-class Catholic Comprehensive schools which fulfill the potential in every child, recognising that 50% A*-C in five GCSEs might be an unreachable target, but able to be proud of what it achieves for every single child.<BR/><BR/>Either solution would be OK, but I'm not aware of a Catholic Diocese which has faced up to achieving either in practice.Ttonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185875893212146794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036855448795934379.post-44653813792566795552007-11-07T20:47:00.000+00:002007-11-07T20:47:00.000+00:00I have no idea what this particular school is like...I have no idea what this particular school is like. However, too many Catholic state schools are Catholic in name only.<BR/><BR/>Whilst they are constrained by the national curriculum, government imposed selection procedure and the odious Connexions, they can never fulfill to role they should have within the Catholic community. Further to this, there aren't enough Catholic teachers to go round.<BR/><BR/>If I return to teaching in a Catholic school, it will be to an independent one. The state is deliberately turning faith schools into a bad caricature of what they should be because they are frightened by what they could be: a real engine for renewal and revival.Ritahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15120333351409730480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9036855448795934379.post-84348364759343538542007-11-07T13:41:00.000+00:002007-11-07T13:41:00.000+00:00This issue seems very similar to the adoption scan...This issue seems very similar to the adoption scandal of this year and can only lead to greater independence and/or elitism. <BR/><BR/>Catholic schools and adoption agencies accept the government funding and therefore should not be surprised that they eventually end up having the government's erroneous policies enforced upon them. <BR/><BR/>The resulting circumstances will require (as you suggest) action (and direct funding) from the Archdiocease of England and Wales or independent schools paid by the rich that can act outside of the state sector. <BR/><BR/>The church has been antipathetic and cowardly for a long while now and maybe being cornered in this manner will (at last) force someone to be bold and brave. <BR/><BR/>As our current great pontiff has concluded a smaller, purer, independent and more determined Church in Europe may not be such a bad thing and the strike on such a central issue as Catholic education may only force our hand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com